It is no more cutting edge to swear continuously on air than it is to fawn before powerful people and it is cringingly old hat to be sexually explicit when talking about past relationships. What papers like the Guardian are doing 'yet again' is being taken in by the fluff, far from the resignation of Brand making the BBC a blander place, his employment in the first place was part of the dumbing down process. Just look at Ross's chat show, it is nothing more than a powder puff for the corporate movie, record and TV industry, no one appears on it who is not doing a bit of product placement.
For Mark Lawson in the Guardian to suggest that Ross is cutting edge TV is nonsensical, having a house band called 4 Poofs and a Piano does not make TV cutting edge, but is simply more of the same dressed in frilly knickers. As to his presentation of Film 2008, Barry Norman was more cutting edge back in the early 1970s, with Ross it is all about corporate made Hollywood movies and the 'stars' who appear in them.
The BBC is a great institution that has increasingly lost its way under the New Labour government, it has reverted to being a conservative institution that caters for the tastes of the English middle classes of all ages. Estuary English and other working class regional accents are all but barred from the airwaves; and instead of real cutting edge broadcasting, whether it be on politics, drama, music, or comedy the likes of Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand where recruited at great cost to the license payers to create an illusion of cutting edge radical broadcasting.
There is nothing new about swearing on air, talking about sexual conquests and in the process denigrating women, nor fawning at the feet of powerful people, be they movie stars or politicos. The fact is we are where we are with the BBC and the Russell Brand/Ross kefuffle is merely a symptom of the conservative malaise at the top of the Corporation. This is why I believe the buck should stop with the Director General and the Chair of the BBC Governors offering their heads to the viewers they have so inadequately served.









9 comments:
'The BBC is a great institution that has increasingly lost its way under the New Labour government; it has reverted to being a conservative institution that caters for the tastes of the English middle classes of all ages'
Mick, you must be kidding! The BBC is ultra-Liberal and has been described as such by former members of staff such as Andrew Marr and Jeff Randall. Just read the BBC's won report on the matter outlined here in the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1554936/BBC-viewers-angered-by-its-'innate-liberal-bias'.html
Other commentators have mentioned this as well. Just look at the kid gloves approach to Islam, the fawning over Obama and numerous other matters. It is telling that a report by the BBC itself actually can be used to verify claims of an ultra PC, multiculturalist bias that ignores numerous other issues. Plus of course we are obliged by law to fund it a disgrace. Mick, you and I disagree on many matters but I am amazed you would accuse the BBC of being something that it clearly and according to members of its staff is not. Ben Elton's opinion recently:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-553608/BBC-scared-allow-jokes-Islam-says-Ben-Elton.html
The Daily Mail is not my usual source but they are accurately quoting Elton in this regard.
Paul
When I wrote the BBC is a conservative institution that is middle class to the core, I did not mean politically, but in the manner it is run and who it targets its broadcasts at, plus the people it employs in front of camera and mic.
For me this fact is undeniable, I am somewhat surprised by Jeff Randle's claim, he is well aware that on economic matters the beeb churned out neo-liberal/conservative crap for years, much of it came out of his mouth;) Indeed when the crash first hit the Beeb was at an absolute loss, as they had so few contacts left who advocated an alternative form of economics they ended up interviewing the very people who had supported the sub-prime etc disaster.
Now the BBC has gone all Keynesist, as that is what is coming out of Downing St; and there is the key, the BBC no matter what some pretend, is not an independent force nor neutral.
The government of the day appoints its governing board/Trust and appoints the Director General and the trust/board members. It also allocates the BBC level of funding.
Yes the BBC may have the odd liberal hisey fit now and again, but on the really important issues it is as one with the government of the day and when it is not, the Gov quickly brings it into line. [remember how quickly the beeb got in line over Iraq after the Gilligan/Kelly kerfuffle and do not forget multi culturalism has been UK government policy since before Thatcher came to power, if not long before.]
Whether it is Britain's foreign military adventures abroad, the war in the north of Ireland, keeping the EU at arms length, grovelling before half wit US presidents and Betsy Windsors happy brood, the State and the BBC are as one.
Only a middle class dope like Ben who has started to believe his own publicity powder puffs would think otherwise.
Best regards.
I came to the realisation some time ago that Organized Rage consists largely of reprinting articles from the bourgeois press with confused and tedious introductions from Mick Hall. Somehow I knew that Mick Hall would be unable to resist this latest storm in a teacup scandal engulfing the bourgeois media.
The internet is saturated with Mick Halls, people whose petit bourgeois vanity compels them to comment on issues that they have diminutive understanding of adding little to what already exists in the bourgeois media.
Organized Rage is about as radical as Women’s Hour on Radio 4.
I was going to reply in my usual manner with Dear anon, but I thought it would be rude not to call you by you real name so here goes,
Dear Mr Anonymous.
My first thought on reading your comments was to wonder why such a revolutionary person as yourself, spends their time listening to a petit bourgeois program like Woman's Hour, nevertheless it is not for me to reason why; and it is nice to know that you feel Organized Rage is on a par with this braodcasting institution, thank you for your kind words of encouragement.
'My people' and I toil away in the boiler-house of the petit bourgeois revolution and when the odd ray of light gets through to our sweated brows it encourages us no end.
Indeed at this very moment on reading your comment, for the first time in months, young Harry is whistling that happy proletarian tune "the workers united will never be defeated.' So well done comrade.
I realize at you exulted level in the 'movement' you have no interest in the bourgeois media and I realize this is because you spend much of your time correcting petit bourgeois backsliders like myself. [thanks again]
Myself I feel it is important to understand how instruments of the State such as the BBC function, not least because it is one of the main sources from which millions of working class people gain their information, and thus it cannot but help shape their/our opinions.
But there I am being all petit bourgeoie again, silly me.
All this week the Brand Ross crank phone call has been splashed all over the media and you have followed their lead. If you feel that you have a journalistic bent then you should go to Nepal for a year or live amongst the homeless and write what you find.
Your choice of articles shows you in opportunist and reformist light, as a schoolteacher might say, could do better.
Julian
Julian
You may well be right about my going to Nepal, although last spring i found myself on a Turkish mountain side and realized at my age [60] I was more a hinderance than a help.
We are going to have to differ over the Ross/BBC business, nothing wrong with that, it is as it should be. As a socialists i simply do not believe just because the tabloids lead on something, I should leave it alone. For one thing this would divorce me from working class life, for as sad as it is, many of my friends and neighbors are still influenced by these wretched papers, ect.
However, I am going to take you up on my having a journalistic bent, I'm sure you will pleased to know I have no such thing, although i will admit to there being a certain vanity about blogging, anyone who says otherwise is lying.
I blog because I can, as at times I have both the time and opportunity, having left school at a very young age almost illiterate, this blog gives me an opportunity to express some of the anger I feel against those who run, influence and benefit above others from the type of society we live in.
As a working class man I demand the right to have the same opportunity to express my opinions as members of the middle and upper classes have and, who have always taken it for granted as their absolute right, whilst barring me and mine from the media. Well not any more, with the Internet we are here and I tell you bluntly we are not going away. [not even to Tibet ;)
Julian, I have gone into some detail here to point out to you just why I blog. I have done this as I do not believe you are the type of middle class shit
who normally comes on here carping about spelling mistakes or my lack of understanding grammar etc.
As to my being an opportunist, well all writers are, as to being a reformists, perhaps when the need arises, for I believe passionately if the working class cannot defend past gains, we are unlikely to make future gains.
Myself, in the current period, I believe socialists should be working towards a Left Party that has the space within it for both left reformists and revolutionaries, although i doubt you would agree with that.
Lutta continua.
Mick, you have done well in responding to what were in my opinion, personal and petty attacks upon you on this page. Had similar comments appeared on my blog I would have been tempted to hit delete.
That said your comment Re Ben Elton is slightly silly. As to the BBC it has followed its own agenda for a long time. But let's look at its editorial policy Re the UK military. I don't recall them being particularly pro HMG during 'the troubles' indeed all the best journalism was done by Granada. Remember the heckles raised by 'death on the rock' or the 'Cook report'? Two examples of journalism that approached the issues raised from different sides.
Anyhow back on topic the UK military and their current efforts. The BBC deemed it inappropriate to produce a documentary Re the brave exploits of Johnson Beharry and his winning of the VC in Iraq. Now bear in mind that what led to the award of Beharry's VC, was an actual series of events in 2004 witnessed by numerous others. He saved the lives of his colleagues twice, whilst injured himself and placed himself at considerable risk in order to do so. But the BBC's editorial board canned the idea of documenting this young man's selfless heroism. So what? You may well ask. Yet the BBC produced that shoddy pile of cack 'the undercover soldier' recently. A so called piece of journalism that uncovered bullying at Catterick garrison, where our Infantry our trained for overseas. Second hand accounts of bullying our fine for the beeb but not established deeds of bravery that actually occurred. These two reasons alone I believe establish the Beeb's take on the UK military and their current endeavours. As to multiculturalism I agree with you that they follow current government policy in that regard. At least that is where that policy is to appease Islam in every possible regard. At least we have Channel four for braver and better journalism on the home front.
Paul,
You may be right about my comment about Ben Alton, it was a bit of a throw away line, but your mistaken in that I would shrug my shoulders and think so what by the BBC's refusal to make a program about Beharry VC. Whilst I may disagree with some of the places British politicians send the UK army to fight in, I like to think I am the type of man who is always prepared to say a pray for any man who does his duty as he sees it.
I'm surprised the powers that be, [I include the beeb here,] did not make more of Johnson Beharry, as I am certain he would have made an excellent role model for black youngsters,
Take care
Mick
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